1 00:00:01,170 --> 00:00:02,730 Previously on L .A. Law. 2 00:00:02,950 --> 00:00:07,710 Mr. Becker, am I correct in assuming that you're interested in entering into 3 00:00:07,710 --> 00:00:09,990 some sort of romantic relationship with me? 4 00:00:10,230 --> 00:00:14,330 Possible inappropriateness of such candor notwithstanding, interested would 5 00:00:14,330 --> 00:00:15,670 far too mild of a word. 6 00:00:16,010 --> 00:00:17,650 Please understand something. 7 00:00:18,070 --> 00:00:20,510 I don't believe in recreational sex. 8 00:00:20,870 --> 00:00:24,370 Do not deprive each other so that you may devote yourselves to prayer, 1 9 00:00:24,370 --> 00:00:28,830 Corinthians, chapter 7. Paul's letter to the Corinthians was referring to 10 00:00:28,830 --> 00:00:29,830 married couples. 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,160 I'm a virgin. 12 00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:35,840 I'm a virgin by choice, and I will remain a virgin until the night of my 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:36,840 wedding. 14 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:39,480 Are you married? 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,660 The answer is yes. 16 00:00:47,500 --> 00:00:48,880 Can I look now? 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,940 No, not yet. Please. 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,240 Okay. 19 00:00:55,540 --> 00:00:56,540 Now you can look. 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,240 I stopped on the way to work this morning. 21 00:01:02,540 --> 00:01:06,220 We should do that before we're married. 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,800 Oh. 23 00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:10,380 Well, we have to see if they fit. 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,680 Right. 25 00:01:16,260 --> 00:01:17,640 Let me do it. Oh, yeah. 26 00:01:17,860 --> 00:01:19,300 La, la, la, la. 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:21,840 Oh, 28 00:01:22,420 --> 00:01:25,680 the judge, he faxed me the wedding vows. 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,860 So... If you want, we can practice before Saturday. 30 00:01:30,860 --> 00:01:31,860 Wow. 31 00:01:32,740 --> 00:01:35,280 Those are a lot of words. 32 00:01:35,660 --> 00:01:38,580 Yeah. Last time I just said, I do. 33 00:01:39,020 --> 00:01:40,020 What do you mean? 34 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:44,220 Well, when I got married before, we just said, I do. 35 00:01:46,620 --> 00:01:47,820 You got married before? 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,040 I told you that, Benny. 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,080 Didn't I? 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,480 No. 39 00:01:55,140 --> 00:01:56,240 I thought I did. 40 00:01:57,550 --> 00:01:58,710 I guess I didn't. 41 00:01:59,930 --> 00:02:03,630 But it doesn't matter, though. It was a long time ago. 42 00:02:04,130 --> 00:02:05,250 How long were you married? 43 00:02:05,890 --> 00:02:12,410 About three days. Then my parents found out, and I haven't seen them much after 44 00:02:12,410 --> 00:02:13,410 that. 45 00:02:14,370 --> 00:02:16,510 Did your parents make you get a divorce? 46 00:02:16,810 --> 00:02:18,990 We didn't tell them we got married. 47 00:02:20,010 --> 00:02:21,390 How did you get a divorce? 48 00:02:22,410 --> 00:02:24,450 I guess we didn't. 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,800 Do you think that that will be a problem? 50 00:04:03,180 --> 00:04:05,080 Rosalie forgot to mention she was married. 51 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,860 Yeah, she was in high school. She and another retarded kid ran away to Reno. 52 00:04:08,940 --> 00:04:11,300 They got married, lived in a motel for a few days. 53 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,640 Neither one of them told their parents about the wedding. So Rosalie figured 54 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,180 since they didn't really live together, they weren't really married. 55 00:04:17,860 --> 00:04:19,860 How do you get a divorce finalized by Saturday? 56 00:04:20,140 --> 00:04:21,959 I'm not going for a divorce. I'm going for annulment. 57 00:04:22,260 --> 00:04:25,640 They were both underage. Neither one had parental consent. All I have to do is 58 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,260 get the husband to sign a declaration to that effect. Walk it past the judge. No 59 00:04:29,260 --> 00:04:29,879 big deal. 60 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,320 Well, I hope you're right. Let's get started. 61 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,300 Joyce versus Westland City School Board, wrongful termination. 62 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:36,560 That's mine. 63 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,400 Michael Joyce is a high school biology teacher. School board fired him for 64 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,360 including a discussion of creation science in a senior honors biology 65 00:04:45,580 --> 00:04:48,840 Good. Let's continue. Alvarez versus National... Wait a minute. I'd like to 66 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:51,380 a little bit more about Jane's case, if you don't mind. What would you like to 67 00:04:51,380 --> 00:04:54,860 know? Tell me that we're representing the school board. No, we're not. We're 68 00:04:54,860 --> 00:04:55,860 representing Michael Joyce. 69 00:04:56,190 --> 00:05:00,150 Why? That's who approached us. Well, he didn't exactly approach us, Leland. 70 00:05:00,310 --> 00:05:04,170 Well, that's right. He approached Jane. Jane came to me, and I approved. Wait a 71 00:05:04,170 --> 00:05:07,750 minute. Jane, this guy teaches creationism in public schools? In a 72 00:05:07,750 --> 00:05:11,850 class, no less. He teaches both evolution and creationism in a 73 00:05:11,850 --> 00:05:15,390 designed to permit the students to make up their own minds. So now we are 74 00:05:15,390 --> 00:05:18,610 opposed to the separation of church and state. Is that right? We are lining up 75 00:05:18,610 --> 00:05:22,230 against the First Amendment. I don't believe what Michael did was violative 76 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:25,420 the First Amendment. Leland, at the very minimum... Should this not have been 77 00:05:25,420 --> 00:05:28,360 discussed among the partners prior to taking the case? I wasn't aware that we 78 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,780 had to be in ideological agreement with every client we represent. 79 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,480 With all due respect, Leland, I think that's a little disingenuous. 80 00:05:34,700 --> 00:05:38,320 This isn't your garden variety adversarial contest. This dispute is 81 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,520 ideological. Yes, it is. And there are attorneys here with differing 82 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,600 as well as religious persuasions. I don't think that Michael Joyce deserved 83 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,000 be fired for teaching his students that one explanation for how the world came 84 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,120 into being was that God created it. Nor do I. Oh. 85 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,140 Nor do you. And are you going to favor us with a biblical citation? No, I'm 86 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,700 I'm simply going to say that each one of us at different times has represented 87 00:06:00,700 --> 00:06:04,540 clients or causes that others have found odious. That's not the point. This 88 00:06:04,540 --> 00:06:08,840 young woman is entitled to the same latitude now that we've afforded each 89 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:13,060 in the past. And as far as biblical citations, Stuart, I believe that which 90 00:06:13,060 --> 00:06:16,080 writ large in the book of Job, chapter 33. 91 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,660 The Spirit of God hath made me. 92 00:06:19,420 --> 00:06:22,580 The breath of the Almighty hath given me life. 93 00:06:23,730 --> 00:06:27,130 Thank you. With that, it is done. 94 00:06:33,750 --> 00:06:37,770 Jane, don't hesitate to let me know if you need any help with this case. I 95 00:06:37,770 --> 00:06:40,790 haven't had a chance. 96 00:06:41,710 --> 00:06:42,710 Dad? 97 00:06:43,070 --> 00:06:44,070 Hi, baby. 98 00:06:45,070 --> 00:06:46,350 What are you doing here? 99 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,320 I came to see the trial. 100 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,780 Why didn't you call me and tell me that you were coming? 101 00:06:51,020 --> 00:06:53,700 Because you have enough on your mind without worrying about me. 102 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,680 Uh, Arnold, this is my father, Reverend Halliday, Arnold Becker. 103 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:02,880 How do you do, Mr. Becker? Very nice to meet you. Likewise, Reverend. 104 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:06,660 I'm sure I don't have to tell you, your daughter is a great pleasure to have 105 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:09,920 around. No, you don't, Mr. Becker. If it had been up to me, she'd never left 106 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,340 Oklahoma. Well, I have to get to court. 107 00:07:12,580 --> 00:07:15,020 Reverend, maybe the three of us can go out and have lunch while you're in town. 108 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Oh, I don't think so. 109 00:07:16,670 --> 00:07:17,670 How about tomorrow? 110 00:07:17,870 --> 00:07:21,450 Oh, tomorrow I have to come back here and have lunch at my desk. We could join 111 00:07:21,450 --> 00:07:23,530 you. No, no, I have to work. 112 00:07:23,910 --> 00:07:27,210 Well, Reverend, you and I should go out then. Get me a tuna sandwich on rye, and 113 00:07:27,210 --> 00:07:28,210 I'll be here at 1 o 'clock. 114 00:07:28,710 --> 00:07:29,710 Shall we go? 115 00:07:30,130 --> 00:07:31,450 Nice to meet you. Bye -bye. 116 00:07:39,850 --> 00:07:42,890 What sort of academic credentials do you have, Dr. Joyce? 117 00:07:43,210 --> 00:07:44,510 I have a Ph .D. in biology. 118 00:07:45,260 --> 00:07:46,780 My thesis was in evolutionary theory. 119 00:07:47,060 --> 00:07:50,080 And how long have you been teaching biology at Westland High? 120 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,319 Nine years. 121 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,980 In that time, what kind of evaluations have you gotten from your supervisors? 122 00:07:55,620 --> 00:07:56,559 Only good ones. 123 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,320 In fact, last year I was offered a promotion to an administrative position, 124 00:07:59,460 --> 00:08:00,460 which I declined. 125 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:01,560 Why did you decline? 126 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,600 Because I love to teach. That's all I've ever wanted to do. In your discussions 127 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,380 of the origins of life on Earth in your senior honors science class, did you 128 00:08:11,380 --> 00:08:13,300 teach your students about evolution? 129 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,940 Absolutely. Did you teach it as the dominant scientific theory regarding the 130 00:08:17,940 --> 00:08:22,420 origin of life? Yes, I did. Did you also teach your students the theory of 131 00:08:22,420 --> 00:08:23,420 creation science? 132 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Yes, I did. Why'd you do so? 133 00:08:25,220 --> 00:08:28,880 Because creation science is another explanation for the origins of life. 134 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,120 if anything, did the school board do in response? 135 00:08:31,700 --> 00:08:35,419 They instructed me to cease and desist to teach anything to do with creationism 136 00:08:35,419 --> 00:08:36,239 in my classroom. 137 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Did you comply? 138 00:08:37,860 --> 00:08:38,860 No, I did not. 139 00:08:39,140 --> 00:08:40,140 Why didn't you? 140 00:08:40,340 --> 00:08:43,320 Because as a teacher, I believe in the right to explore alternative theories. 141 00:08:43,850 --> 00:08:48,970 I want my students to challenge and question and analyze. I want them to 142 00:08:48,970 --> 00:08:50,910 to think for themselves and not just absorb information. 143 00:08:51,210 --> 00:08:53,550 And I'm doing what I'm doing because I believe it's right. 144 00:08:54,190 --> 00:08:57,910 And as far as I'm concerned, that is the most important lesson I can teach them. 145 00:08:58,070 --> 00:08:59,850 Thank you. I have no further questions. 146 00:09:01,050 --> 00:09:02,230 Are you a Christian, Dr. Joyce? 147 00:09:02,550 --> 00:09:03,550 Objection irrelevant. 148 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:07,110 We're trying to determine whether this man is teaching science or religion. His 149 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:08,470 own religious beliefs are relevant. 150 00:09:08,750 --> 00:09:11,250 It's what he does, not what he believes that's relevant. 151 00:09:11,710 --> 00:09:12,710 Objection is sustained. 152 00:09:12,870 --> 00:09:16,770 Did you ever make your students aware of your religious beliefs, sir? I never 153 00:09:16,770 --> 00:09:20,810 hid it from them. I also never took class time to discuss them. Oh, did you 154 00:09:20,810 --> 00:09:22,190 about them other than during class time? 155 00:09:22,650 --> 00:09:23,650 Objection irrelevant. 156 00:09:23,850 --> 00:09:27,590 Your Honor, the way in which his students perceive this man is directly 157 00:09:27,590 --> 00:09:29,410 relevant. Objection overruled. 158 00:09:29,710 --> 00:09:30,970 Witness may answer. Sir? 159 00:09:32,210 --> 00:09:34,350 I ran a Bible study class on weekends. 160 00:09:35,070 --> 00:09:36,610 Some of my high school students attended. 161 00:09:36,930 --> 00:09:39,950 So it's fair to say, is it not, that the students in your biology class knew 162 00:09:39,950 --> 00:09:43,670 that you yourself were a Christian? Is that bad? Ask that the witness be 163 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:46,930 instructed to answer the question. Yes, they knew I was a Christian. They knew, 164 00:09:47,110 --> 00:09:50,570 did they not, that to you, creationism was not just another theory. 165 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:53,330 Creationism was the way it happened. 166 00:09:53,850 --> 00:09:55,170 Creationism was the word of God. 167 00:09:55,690 --> 00:09:59,110 Objection, Badger. My religious beliefs do not dictate what I do in my science 168 00:09:59,110 --> 00:10:03,430 class. What I taught my students was appropriate curriculum for biology 169 00:10:03,430 --> 00:10:06,340 to be taught. Did not. Your principal informed you there was, in fact, 170 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,180 inappropriate. Yes. That the curriculum was not to include the teaching of 171 00:10:10,180 --> 00:10:13,880 creation science. Yes, he did. Yet you were right on teaching it. Yes. Thank 172 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,820 you. Nothing further, Your Honor. What are you all so afraid of? You may step 173 00:10:17,820 --> 00:10:22,560 down, Mr. Joyce. Well, what is so threatening about a teacher uttering the 174 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:23,560 of God? Mr. Joyce. 175 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,980 Let me walk you through this, Tim. 176 00:10:30,900 --> 00:10:32,180 I've prepared the papers. 177 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,600 Once you and Rosalie sign the papers, I'll file them with the court, and it'll 178 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,980 be as though you two were never married. 179 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,200 It's as easy as that. 180 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,040 An annulment is quicker than a divorce. It's simpler. It's also way cheaper. 181 00:10:45,340 --> 00:10:48,140 Yeah, plus it'll let them get married on Saturday. 182 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,040 Right. 183 00:10:52,740 --> 00:10:54,380 Are you going to invite me to their wedding? 184 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,920 No. You want to come? 185 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,160 Maybe I do. 186 00:11:00,530 --> 00:11:03,390 Naturally, you are free to hire an attorney, although this is all pretty 187 00:11:03,390 --> 00:11:07,310 straightforward. Why don't you read it over? If you have any questions, I'll 188 00:11:07,310 --> 00:11:08,310 explain it. 189 00:11:08,410 --> 00:11:11,310 If you want to, you can take it home and show it to someone else. You can do 190 00:11:11,310 --> 00:11:15,310 that, too. The only thing I ask is that we get this done by tomorrow. 191 00:11:16,330 --> 00:11:18,190 How come you never call me back, Rosalie? 192 00:11:19,170 --> 00:11:23,230 I don't know. It was a long, long time ago. I don't remember. 193 00:11:23,950 --> 00:11:27,990 I called you every day for two weeks, and you never returned my call. 194 00:11:28,430 --> 00:11:29,910 My mom didn't want me to. 195 00:11:30,170 --> 00:11:31,970 You always do what your mom wants? No. 196 00:11:32,590 --> 00:11:33,590 Then why didn't you call back? 197 00:11:34,270 --> 00:11:37,710 Arnie, might I suggest that we stick to the here and now? 198 00:11:39,010 --> 00:11:40,590 First you walked out on me. 199 00:11:41,350 --> 00:11:42,770 Then you ignored me. 200 00:11:44,130 --> 00:11:49,350 Now you call me after all this time to sign this paper so you can marry 201 00:11:49,350 --> 00:11:53,330 else? Tim, we're all men of the world here. We've all loved and lost. 202 00:11:53,890 --> 00:11:55,030 Admittedly, it's no fun. 203 00:11:55,290 --> 00:11:56,910 But when the game is over... 204 00:11:57,390 --> 00:11:58,870 And the game is over here. 205 00:11:59,550 --> 00:12:01,990 It's time to sign the papers and move on. 206 00:12:03,330 --> 00:12:05,250 Do you still have those blue cowboy boots? 207 00:12:07,390 --> 00:12:09,930 No. I love the way you looked at them. 208 00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:12,990 I remember you wore them on the bus to Reno. 209 00:12:13,190 --> 00:12:14,190 What are you going to do? 210 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:16,570 Are you going to sign that paper or not? 211 00:12:18,450 --> 00:12:19,450 Not? 212 00:12:19,790 --> 00:12:22,550 Tim, we're supposed to get married on Saturday. 213 00:12:22,770 --> 00:12:25,070 You cannot prevent them from getting married, Tim. 214 00:12:25,570 --> 00:12:28,750 Eventually, we will get an annulment or a divorce, whether you agree to it or 215 00:12:28,750 --> 00:12:31,250 not, and Rosalie will be free to marry whoever she wants. 216 00:12:31,510 --> 00:12:35,130 Well, maybe she'll change her mind by then and decide to stay married to me. 217 00:12:56,810 --> 00:12:57,809 That's him there. 218 00:12:57,810 --> 00:12:58,810 Hey, Tim. 219 00:12:59,970 --> 00:13:03,750 You can't come back here. I told your boss I'd only keep you a minute. Why 220 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:04,750 you come over here? 221 00:13:04,830 --> 00:13:05,950 That's the place right there. 222 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:11,070 Listen, I think we may have all gotten a little carried away by emotion 223 00:13:11,070 --> 00:13:12,490 yesterday. What do you think? 224 00:13:12,990 --> 00:13:14,730 I don't know. What are you talking about? 225 00:13:14,950 --> 00:13:18,110 I thought I owed it to you to come by here and make sure you understand the 226 00:13:18,110 --> 00:13:19,490 realities of the situation. 227 00:13:20,810 --> 00:13:23,010 Rosie and me are still married. That's reality. 228 00:13:23,230 --> 00:13:25,070 Well, as far as it goes, yes, but... 229 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:28,560 He wants to marry Benny, and you can't stop her from divorcing you. 230 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,400 You said divorce could take a year. 231 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,640 It can, but so what? 232 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,140 In the end, you still won't be married anymore. 233 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:35,900 Maybe yes, maybe no. 234 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,360 Tim, there's also the possibility of a criminal investigation. 235 00:13:44,380 --> 00:13:47,300 What do you mean? Taking a minor across state lines is a crime. 236 00:13:47,860 --> 00:13:51,800 Encouraging her to lie about her age on a marriage license, sex with a minor, 237 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,600 that could be statutory rape. 238 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,740 Did DeRozan start rape, Ted? It doesn't matter what she said. 239 00:13:57,020 --> 00:13:58,140 She was under 18. 240 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,460 You know what? I think you're trying to scare me, so I signed a paper. 241 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,380 I just want you to understand what might happen. 242 00:14:08,340 --> 00:14:11,900 That's all I'm doing here, Ted. I'm not going to sign the paper. I don't care 243 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:12,900 what you do. 244 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,980 Tracy, could you tell the court how you know Mr. Joyce? 245 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,900 I was in his senior honors science class. 246 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,320 Approximately how much of that class would you say was spent discussing the 247 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,360 origins of life? 248 00:14:28,820 --> 00:14:33,100 Out of the 15 -week semester, I'd say we spent about three weeks on it. And what 249 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:34,760 did you talk about during those discussions? 250 00:14:35,260 --> 00:14:39,140 We talked about evolution theory, and we talked about creation science theory, 251 00:14:39,340 --> 00:14:43,280 and then we discussed the strengths and weaknesses of both. Did Mr. Joyce 252 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,740 encourage debate among the students on those ideas? 253 00:14:46,170 --> 00:14:47,069 Oh, absolutely. 254 00:14:47,070 --> 00:14:50,650 More than half our grade depended on class participation. Did Mr. 255 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:55,210 Joyce ever tell you that evolution was wrong and creation science was right? 256 00:14:55,450 --> 00:14:58,810 No. What did you believe in before you took Mr. Joyce's class, Tracy? 257 00:14:59,230 --> 00:15:00,330 I believed in evolution. 258 00:15:00,690 --> 00:15:01,930 And what do you believe in now? 259 00:15:02,690 --> 00:15:07,410 Evolution. I've questioned it on occasion, but I still believe that's 260 00:15:07,410 --> 00:15:08,950 how life on Earth came into being. 261 00:15:09,230 --> 00:15:10,370 I have nothing further. 262 00:15:12,220 --> 00:15:15,480 Tracy, when Mr. Joyce taught creationism, did he do so critically? 263 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,800 I'm not sure I know what you mean. 264 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,440 Did he place it in any historical context? 265 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,700 Did he mention, for example, the scientific impossibility of the world 266 00:15:24,700 --> 00:15:25,920 into being in six days? 267 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,740 He said there were things in both evolution theory and creation science 268 00:15:30,740 --> 00:15:33,060 that don't have scientific explanations yet. 269 00:15:33,260 --> 00:15:37,120 Did Mr. Joyce give as much credibility to creationism as he did to evolution? 270 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,680 Yes. Were there any students who objected to that? 271 00:15:40,180 --> 00:15:42,800 Objection calls for hearsay. I'll allow it. 272 00:15:43,620 --> 00:15:44,620 Tracy? 273 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,580 Yes, there were students who objected. And how did Mr. Joyce respond to those 274 00:15:48,580 --> 00:15:49,580 objections? 275 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,840 He said any students who felt uncomfortable could go to the library. 276 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:54,280 Anyone take him up on that? 277 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,140 No. Why do you suppose that is? 278 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,300 Objection calls for the witness to testify to the operation of another 279 00:16:01,300 --> 00:16:04,300 mind. I am asking the witness for an opinion about her peers, Your Honor. 280 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:05,540 Objection is overruled. 281 00:16:05,870 --> 00:16:09,450 Witness may answer. Tracy, why do you suppose no one left the class? 282 00:16:09,730 --> 00:16:10,730 I don't know. 283 00:16:10,850 --> 00:16:16,210 Maybe it didn't seem so bad after all, or maybe they wanted to be exposed to a 284 00:16:16,210 --> 00:16:18,750 different point of view. Do you think it's possible they just didn't want to 285 00:16:18,750 --> 00:16:21,570 stand out from their peers, no matter how uncomfortable they felt? 286 00:16:22,290 --> 00:16:25,630 Objection. Sustained. Do you like to stand out from your peers, Tracy? 287 00:16:26,730 --> 00:16:27,990 No. No. 288 00:16:28,510 --> 00:16:30,010 Thank you. I have nothing further. 289 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:32,290 Witness may step down. 290 00:16:37,390 --> 00:16:39,190 Tell me that I'm dreaming. 291 00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:40,430 This is unbelievable. 292 00:16:40,630 --> 00:16:42,490 How could she make us wear these? 293 00:16:42,990 --> 00:16:45,710 Well, she's not exactly Coco Chanel, Denise. 294 00:16:46,030 --> 00:16:48,830 This is beyond not Chanel. This is beyond queen. 295 00:16:49,690 --> 00:16:50,690 Don't come in. 296 00:16:52,130 --> 00:16:53,230 Laugh and you're a dead man. 297 00:16:53,730 --> 00:16:56,910 Did Rosalie describe these ensembles to you beforehand? 298 00:16:57,470 --> 00:17:00,430 She told us she would order things that we would wear again. 299 00:17:01,230 --> 00:17:02,570 Excuse me while I change. 300 00:17:03,610 --> 00:17:04,610 No, it's... 301 00:17:05,829 --> 00:17:08,550 It's not so bad. Are you kidding? I feel like Little Bo Peep. 302 00:17:08,990 --> 00:17:12,050 It's a bridesmaid's outfit. I don't care, Stuart. I don't want to go out in 303 00:17:12,050 --> 00:17:13,150 public looking like this. 304 00:17:13,390 --> 00:17:14,348 It's no big deal. 305 00:17:14,349 --> 00:17:17,690 What do you mean? I mean that everybody will primarily be looking at the bride 306 00:17:17,690 --> 00:17:20,109 anyway. Will you primarily be looking at the bride? 307 00:17:20,670 --> 00:17:22,650 No, but it doesn't matter to me what you're wearing. 308 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:24,510 Uh -huh. 309 00:17:28,690 --> 00:17:29,710 I said the wrong thing. 310 00:17:29,930 --> 00:17:30,649 Forget it. 311 00:17:30,650 --> 00:17:33,590 No. It's not that I don't care what you're wearing. 312 00:17:33,850 --> 00:17:36,390 It's that what you're wearing has no effect on me. 313 00:17:37,090 --> 00:17:41,710 No, what I mean is it doesn't change the way I think about you. You know, I know 314 00:17:41,710 --> 00:17:42,950 that you're capable of looking good. 315 00:17:45,390 --> 00:17:47,590 I mean, you do look good. 316 00:17:48,050 --> 00:17:51,990 In that dress, you look good. You know, not everybody could get away with 317 00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:53,470 wearing a dress like that, but you... 318 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:03,520 Eli, I'm changing. 319 00:18:03,860 --> 00:18:04,940 Why are you changing in here? 320 00:18:05,220 --> 00:18:08,100 Because the ladies' room is fully occupied. Now, can you please close the 321 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,440 Eli, close the door from the outside. 322 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,520 Oh. I'll just be a minute, okay? 323 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,980 Should I take my briefcase or leave my briefcase? Eli! I'll leave my briefcase. 324 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:20,800 Okay, I'm leaving. 325 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,660 You know, I find that certain theological questions come to mind 326 00:18:31,790 --> 00:18:32,749 Is that right? 327 00:18:32,750 --> 00:18:37,970 Well, I wonder about the nature of things. Sin, the revelation of God, 328 00:18:38,210 --> 00:18:42,350 The Bible has a good deal to say on all those subjects, Arnold. I find myself 329 00:18:42,350 --> 00:18:46,650 thinking Thessalonians says one thing, Obadiah says something else. What's the 330 00:18:46,650 --> 00:18:48,530 story? Tell me something, Arnold. 331 00:18:48,790 --> 00:18:51,830 Have you always been such a keen student of the Bible? 332 00:18:52,210 --> 00:18:55,890 No, sir, I haven't. To tell you the truth, your daughter has awakened in me 333 00:18:55,890 --> 00:18:57,610 real hunger for spiritual direction. 334 00:18:58,270 --> 00:19:01,050 Look, I have to get some work done before I go back to court. 335 00:19:01,790 --> 00:19:04,350 Lunch is here. Ah, you like meatball sandwiches? 336 00:19:04,730 --> 00:19:07,470 Excuse me? Place not far from here makes great meatball sandwiches. 337 00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:10,570 I wanted to buy you from there. Ben said you liked this place, so we went there 338 00:19:10,570 --> 00:19:12,270 instead. By the way, Dominic Nucci. 339 00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:13,710 How do you do? 340 00:19:13,810 --> 00:19:16,510 Dominic, this is Jane's father, Reverend Holiday. 341 00:19:16,970 --> 00:19:18,250 Reverend, how do you do? 342 00:19:18,790 --> 00:19:20,150 Fine. Nice to meet you. 343 00:19:21,190 --> 00:19:23,070 How's the plans for the wedding coming, Benny? 344 00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:24,750 Not so good. 345 00:19:24,930 --> 00:19:28,430 Hey, don't worry, Benno. We'll get there. Be good, everybody. 346 00:19:29,050 --> 00:19:30,050 Thank you. 347 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:35,770 You know, I'm surprised Jane has never mentioned you to her mother or me. You 348 00:19:35,770 --> 00:19:36,950 seem to know each other very well. 349 00:19:38,990 --> 00:19:40,410 Not as well as I'd like to. 350 00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:46,130 Mr. Osborne, as president of the school board, is it your policy that once you 351 00:19:46,130 --> 00:19:49,830 hire a teacher, he or she can teach their students anything they want? 352 00:19:50,050 --> 00:19:51,050 No, it's not. 353 00:19:51,210 --> 00:19:55,290 The curriculum for each area of study is laid out by the State Board of 354 00:19:55,290 --> 00:19:56,290 Education. 355 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,020 If a teacher wants to augment that, we look at the additional materials, and 356 00:20:01,020 --> 00:20:03,500 then we make a determination as to whether or not it's appropriate. 357 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,880 I see. 358 00:20:05,340 --> 00:20:10,300 And is creation science part of the established curriculum? 359 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,020 No, it is not. According to the State Board of Education, creationism, or 360 00:20:15,020 --> 00:20:20,840 creation science, if you will, is a religious and not a scientific 361 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,900 for the origins of life. And as such, it has no place in a public high school 362 00:20:25,900 --> 00:20:26,899 science class. 363 00:20:26,900 --> 00:20:31,580 But don't the students have the right to hear and discuss a variety of points of 364 00:20:31,580 --> 00:20:35,340 view? In a science class, students have the right to hear and discuss science. 365 00:20:35,460 --> 00:20:39,080 Mr. Joyce was not teaching science. He was teaching religion. 366 00:20:39,460 --> 00:20:43,120 And in your opinion, was that alone sufficient grounds for termination? 367 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,680 Absolutely. He'd been given numerous warnings. 368 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,280 and willfully ignored them. 369 00:20:48,820 --> 00:20:51,580 I think those grounds are eminently sufficient. 370 00:20:51,980 --> 00:20:52,980 I have nothing further. 371 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,540 Mr. Osborne, are there circumstances under which you deem the discussion of 372 00:20:58,540 --> 00:20:59,560 religion permissible? 373 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:06,500 Yes, there are. In a social studies class, a literature class, but not in a 374 00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:07,399 science class. 375 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,820 Why not in a science class? 376 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:13,380 Because when you teach biblical explanations of historical events under 377 00:21:13,380 --> 00:21:14,500 heading of science... 378 00:21:14,780 --> 00:21:18,560 The tacit implication is that they are true. Is it possible, Mr. 379 00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:23,300 Osborne, that for some people they are true? What is true for some people does 380 00:21:23,300 --> 00:21:24,600 not constitute science. 381 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Are they true for you? 382 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,960 I don't take the Bible literally, no. 383 00:21:29,180 --> 00:21:32,120 And you want to make sure that nobody else does either. Objection. I want to 384 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:37,020 make sure we're not allowing a high school biology class to be used to 385 00:21:37,020 --> 00:21:40,500 fundamentalist Christian point of view. Does a belief in the Bible make one a 386 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:41,760 fundamentalist Christian, Mr. 387 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:42,960 Osborne? 388 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:47,630 No. I did not mean to suggest that it did. 389 00:21:48,910 --> 00:21:50,010 I have nothing further. 390 00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:51,550 Witness is excused. 391 00:21:57,650 --> 00:21:59,110 You want I should talk to him? 392 00:21:59,330 --> 00:22:00,550 What would you say to him? 393 00:22:01,250 --> 00:22:03,630 I'd straighten him out. Don't worry about what I say. 394 00:22:04,370 --> 00:22:06,530 Arnie already talked to him. He won't sign. 395 00:22:07,650 --> 00:22:11,450 Hey, Benny, all due respect, Arnie's a lawyer. 396 00:22:12,650 --> 00:22:14,690 This situation calls for a different approach. 397 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:17,990 Arnie goes in with the briefcase, the big words. I go in with a bing, with a 398 00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:18,990 bang, it's done. 399 00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:22,750 Hey, Benny, did Arnie get his sign? 400 00:22:23,150 --> 00:22:25,490 No. What are we going to do? 401 00:22:26,090 --> 00:22:27,090 I don't know. 402 00:22:27,170 --> 00:22:32,310 The place has been reserved because the food, the dresses, the invitations have 403 00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:33,310 been sent. 404 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:35,590 What's the band? I got a six -piece band coming. 405 00:22:35,910 --> 00:22:37,370 I've got to talk to you, Benny. 406 00:22:40,770 --> 00:22:42,890 What? Oh, you want a little privacy? 407 00:22:43,290 --> 00:22:44,290 Fine. 408 00:22:45,610 --> 00:22:47,690 Let me know if you want me to take care of it, Ben. 409 00:22:48,210 --> 00:22:54,390 I don't want you to be mad at me anymore. 410 00:22:56,490 --> 00:23:01,110 Ever since I told you about that guy, you've been mad at me. I don't want you 411 00:23:01,110 --> 00:23:02,350 be mad at me anymore. 412 00:23:02,790 --> 00:23:06,070 Do you still love him? I never loved him. 413 00:23:06,410 --> 00:23:08,670 Then why did you marry him? 414 00:23:14,709 --> 00:23:19,270 Anyway, you had someone who you did love. You told me that yourself. 415 00:23:19,810 --> 00:23:20,910 And not the same. 416 00:23:21,250 --> 00:23:23,090 I told you about her. 417 00:23:23,530 --> 00:23:25,770 Tim is not a secret. 418 00:23:26,030 --> 00:23:28,490 I forgot about him. 419 00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:32,170 I do that sometimes. I forget about things. 420 00:23:32,770 --> 00:23:34,390 Maybe you'll forget about me. 421 00:23:36,050 --> 00:23:40,810 Oh, I could never forget about you, Benny. 422 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,640 I love you. 423 00:23:51,180 --> 00:23:55,760 So, how do you gentlemen feel about your firm being placed in the service of 424 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,760 Christ Jesus? 425 00:23:58,660 --> 00:23:59,660 Pretty good. 426 00:23:59,900 --> 00:24:04,100 Some of us. Our little girl may be the standard bearer, but it's you people who 427 00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:06,460 are making it possible for her to go forward. 428 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,780 Daddy. Well, Reverend, we have nothing but the highest regard for your 429 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,360 She's done nothing but great work since she got here. When Jane told us she was 430 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:20,260 going to work as a lawyer in Los Angeles, we said, dear Jesus, give her 431 00:24:20,260 --> 00:24:24,520 strength to keep the devil under her feet. Keep old Slewfoot from snatching 432 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,220 little girl away. And I can't tell you how happy we are that she's living here 433 00:24:29,220 --> 00:24:31,120 and still doing the work of the Lord. 434 00:24:31,540 --> 00:24:33,240 Dad, we need to get to court. 435 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,360 I'll see you gentlemen at the wedding. 436 00:24:36,740 --> 00:24:37,980 You're going to the wedding? 437 00:24:38,220 --> 00:24:39,680 Then he asked me to officiate. 438 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,440 Yikes. Well, there's goyim and there's goyim. 439 00:24:50,740 --> 00:24:51,740 Jim. 440 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Go away. 441 00:24:57,060 --> 00:24:58,540 I want to talk to you. 442 00:24:59,860 --> 00:25:02,240 You can't scare me. You've been already tried. 443 00:25:02,660 --> 00:25:06,280 I'm not trying to scare you. I just want to talk to you. 444 00:25:10,730 --> 00:25:11,730 Come here. 445 00:25:18,790 --> 00:25:19,790 What do you want? 446 00:25:20,970 --> 00:25:22,810 I want you to sign that paper. 447 00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:26,930 I don't want to. I want to marry Rosalie this Saturday. 448 00:25:27,210 --> 00:25:28,210 She's already married. 449 00:25:29,170 --> 00:25:31,290 She wants to be married to me. 450 00:25:31,730 --> 00:25:33,230 Oh yeah? How come you're so great? 451 00:25:34,550 --> 00:25:36,070 I'm not so great. 452 00:25:36,330 --> 00:25:37,670 You think you're smarter than me? No. 453 00:25:38,330 --> 00:25:41,390 You think you're better than me because you work in the office and I work in the 454 00:25:41,390 --> 00:25:42,770 kitchen? No. 455 00:25:42,970 --> 00:25:46,570 Then how come you get to marry her? How come you get everything you want? 456 00:25:47,450 --> 00:25:49,650 Because she loves me. 457 00:25:50,330 --> 00:25:51,530 She could love me, too. 458 00:25:52,650 --> 00:25:54,050 She wants to love me. 459 00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:56,150 That was a long time ago. 460 00:25:56,410 --> 00:25:57,089 I don't care. 461 00:25:57,090 --> 00:25:58,270 I want a wife, too. 462 00:25:58,930 --> 00:26:02,450 You can have a wife. It just can't be Rosalie. 463 00:26:04,110 --> 00:26:06,930 I don't know anybody else. 464 00:26:10,250 --> 00:26:11,490 I got to get back to work. 465 00:26:13,850 --> 00:26:17,270 Tim, would you... Would you please sign that paper? 466 00:26:20,730 --> 00:26:25,410 Would you please tell the court your occupation, sir? I'm a research 467 00:26:25,410 --> 00:26:30,250 and an advisor on science curriculum for the State Board of Education. 468 00:26:30,490 --> 00:26:33,050 My specialty is origins of life theory. 469 00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:37,770 Now, in your view, does the biblical explanation for the origins of life 470 00:26:37,770 --> 00:26:38,770 as science? 471 00:26:38,790 --> 00:26:39,810 No, it does not. 472 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:40,999 Why does it not? 473 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:46,280 In science, one bases one's conclusions on scientific methodology, on empirical 474 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,380 observation. Now, how does this differ from creationism, Doctor? 475 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,180 Creationism starts with a conclusion, as set out in the Bible in Genesis. 476 00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:58,100 Then goes about finding data and ways to interpret that data to support the 477 00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:02,600 conclusion. I think I'm safe in saying that the body of scientific knowledge 478 00:27:02,780 --> 00:27:07,440 our civilization, draws on does not support the notion that the world as we 479 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,020 it was created. 480 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,680 In six days. 481 00:27:10,860 --> 00:27:11,860 No further questions. 482 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,260 You believe in the theory of evolution, isn't that right, Doctor? 483 00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:18,680 It isn't a theory, Miss Halliday. 484 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,460 It's an observable fact. 485 00:27:21,020 --> 00:27:25,560 Like the shape of the Earth, the speed of light. Is the origin of the first 486 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,600 forms found on Earth an observable fact? 487 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,340 Not yet, no. But there are various theories that seek to explain it. Is the 488 00:27:34,340 --> 00:27:36,780 development of DNA an observable fact? 489 00:27:37,220 --> 00:27:38,600 Not yet, no. But... 490 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,340 Again, there are a number of theories. 491 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,820 But those are just theories, isn't that right, Doctor? 492 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,200 They are scientifically grounded, but yes, they are theories. 493 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,820 That would lead one to conclude, would it not, Doctor, that there are things 494 00:27:49,820 --> 00:27:53,500 about the universe that can't be explained with observable scientific 495 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,100 Not yet, no. 496 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,600 So not yet, but definitely not God. 497 00:27:57,940 --> 00:27:58,829 Miss Halliday. 498 00:27:58,830 --> 00:28:02,410 If we pointed to the existence of God, every time we came up against something 499 00:28:02,410 --> 00:28:06,110 that we couldn't explain, we'd still be living in the Dark Ages. Isn't part of 500 00:28:06,110 --> 00:28:09,850 not living in the Dark Ages that we are free to consider a wide array of ideas 501 00:28:09,850 --> 00:28:12,790 and beliefs? You can consider whatever you want, Ms. Halliday. 502 00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:18,730 What you can't do is place religious mythology on the same pedestal as 503 00:28:18,730 --> 00:28:22,390 evolutionary science. In other words, you want the pedestal all to yourself. 504 00:28:22,970 --> 00:28:24,130 Objection. Nothing further. 505 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,300 You're still brooding. Why are you still brooding? 506 00:28:33,540 --> 00:28:35,100 I'm not brooding. Yeah, you are. 507 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,460 Ever since I said whatever it was I said about your dress, you've been in a full 508 00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:40,460 -on brood. 509 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,300 It was a painful thing to hear, Stuart. Why? 510 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,560 You know that I still have desire for you, don't you? 511 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,640 I guess I don't know it as much as I used to know it. 512 00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:53,820 Yeah, well, there's a lot of things that aren't the way they used to be, huh? 513 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,040 Like what else? 514 00:29:00,389 --> 00:29:04,230 Like one's desire doesn't come to the fore as often as it used to? 515 00:29:05,850 --> 00:29:09,290 We work hard all day. We've got a kid at home. We're tired. 516 00:29:10,390 --> 00:29:12,130 Our stamina isn't what it used to be. 517 00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:15,470 I don't want to require stamina, Stuart. 518 00:29:16,010 --> 00:29:18,530 I don't want our marriage to be something that we endure. 519 00:29:20,390 --> 00:29:24,290 Why do you read these vast, gloomy passages in everything I say? 520 00:29:24,810 --> 00:29:27,630 There will be periods of time when the fire is out, yes. 521 00:29:27,870 --> 00:29:31,330 But that doesn't mean I don't love you. It doesn't mean I don't desire you. It 522 00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:32,490 probably just means that I'm tired. 523 00:29:33,130 --> 00:29:34,130 Fine. 524 00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:36,790 And now she says fine. 525 00:29:37,670 --> 00:29:40,190 And now she is not going to let up on me. 526 00:29:40,770 --> 00:29:45,470 Because I haven't demonstrated the requisite amount of sympathy or passion 527 00:29:45,470 --> 00:29:46,990 whatever the hell it is I'm supposed to demonstrate. 528 00:29:50,550 --> 00:29:51,550 I'll tell you something, honey. 529 00:29:53,060 --> 00:29:55,160 Demonstrations of passion are supposed to arise spontaneously. 530 00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:58,840 And it doesn't help matters that I live in fear of offending you all the time. 531 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,720 That I think you're going to jump down my throat every time I might make an 532 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,720 inappropriate remark. 533 00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:03,980 Think about that. 534 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:08,900 And think about what you might have done if the fire is out to put it out. 535 00:30:15,140 --> 00:30:16,140 What do you want, Arnie? 536 00:30:16,420 --> 00:30:17,720 He said he wanted to see you. 537 00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:23,070 What do you want? 538 00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:26,250 I came to sign the paper. You did? 539 00:30:27,130 --> 00:30:28,510 Yeah, I didn't do it because of you. 540 00:30:29,150 --> 00:30:32,530 And I didn't do it because of you either. I did it because of Rosalie. 541 00:30:33,270 --> 00:30:34,270 That's okay. 542 00:30:35,470 --> 00:30:39,630 But I want you to give this to her before the wedding. 543 00:30:39,890 --> 00:30:42,410 May I inquire as to what is in there? No. 544 00:30:43,170 --> 00:30:45,890 And you can't look at what's inside there either. 545 00:30:46,510 --> 00:30:47,770 You've got to promise not to look. 546 00:30:48,670 --> 00:30:49,670 Oh, okay. 547 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,840 You also gotta promise that you'll give it to her. 548 00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:54,700 Okay. 549 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,960 So you promise? 550 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,000 I promise. 551 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,040 Where do I sign? 552 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,680 Right there. 553 00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:22,740 You're getting married. 554 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,160 Yeah. 555 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,240 You may proceed with your closing, Ms. Halliday. 556 00:31:29,780 --> 00:31:31,740 Michael Joyce is a teacher. 557 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,740 His job was to prepare a group of students to go out into the world, to 558 00:31:37,740 --> 00:31:39,560 them. That's what he loved to do. 559 00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:40,820 That's what he did. 560 00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:45,980 What he refused to do was put blinders on his students, to tell them to ask 561 00:31:45,980 --> 00:31:50,780 questions, but only these questions, to look for answers, but don't look over 562 00:31:50,780 --> 00:31:52,760 there. Don't even look over there. 563 00:31:53,660 --> 00:31:58,800 When he didn't comply, when he refused to narrow his students' vision, he was 564 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,700 fired. Michael Joyce is not the first to refuse to be bound by convention, to 565 00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:09,600 refuse to adhere to a set of ideas and beliefs held out to him as the one and 566 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,600 only truth. 567 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,880 That's what Galileo did, that's what Charles Darwin did, and that is also 568 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,880 John Scopes did. 569 00:32:16,060 --> 00:32:20,800 In Dayton, Tennessee in 1925, those in power would permit only the teaching of 570 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:27,760 creationism. In Los Angeles, California in 1994, those in power permit only the 571 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,760 teaching of evolution. 572 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:34,380 In both cases, those in power have sought to cut off the field of inquiry 573 00:32:34,380 --> 00:32:37,800 forcibly impose their view of the world onto everyone else. 574 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,880 service that we can do Michael Joyce's students is to permit them to make up 575 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,880 their own minds. 576 00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:51,120 We ask that you reinstate Michael Joyce with full back pay and allow him to 577 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,120 resume teaching. 578 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,320 Michael Joyce's job was to teach science to high school students. 579 00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:06,560 When he signed his contract, he agreed to an authorized curriculum. 580 00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:11,590 and he agreed to follow the directives of his principal and his school board. 581 00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:13,030 has not done either of those things. 582 00:33:13,290 --> 00:33:17,030 Now, the plaintiff contends that the authorized curriculum was unreasonably 583 00:33:17,030 --> 00:33:20,950 narrow, that those directives were without justification. 584 00:33:21,510 --> 00:33:26,190 They're wrong, ladies and gentlemen. The fact is that the United States 585 00:33:26,190 --> 00:33:31,070 Constitution requires the separation of church and state. 586 00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:35,810 Despite plaintiff's claims to the contrary, what Michael Joyce did was in 587 00:33:35,810 --> 00:33:36,930 violation of that. 588 00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:42,580 He was teaching religion as if it was science. He was using his authority and 589 00:33:42,580 --> 00:33:48,640 his influence as a teacher to propagate his religious views, and he can't do 590 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,160 that. Now, it doesn't matter that his students want him to continue. It 591 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,760 matter that he himself is utterly sincere in his beliefs. What matters 592 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,320 that a school board is upholding its responsibility. 593 00:34:01,050 --> 00:34:05,250 for keeping religious teachings out of the public school because the First 594 00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:07,230 Amendment requires them to. 595 00:34:09,350 --> 00:34:11,389 I ask that you find for the defendant. 596 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,800 How do you respond to charges that your client represents an encroachment on 597 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,440 public education by members of the religious right? I would categorically 598 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,440 it. Are you in favor of the constitutional separation of church and 599 00:34:35,659 --> 00:34:39,120 I would prefer to try my case in the courtroom rather than the corridor. 600 00:34:40,020 --> 00:34:44,179 Ephesians 6 tells us to put on the full armor of God and take our stand against 601 00:34:44,179 --> 00:34:47,940 the devil's schemes. Are you connected to this case, sir? He is not. Come on, 602 00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:50,940 Reverend, let's go. We have to be willing to speak the word of God 603 00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:54,300 are, Jamie. My Redeemer liveth. This is what he commands me to do. 604 00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:58,620 What is it you're so afraid of, Doctor? 605 00:34:58,940 --> 00:35:02,940 I'm afraid of religious zealots like you, Reverend. Praise God, that must 606 00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:03,940 I'm doing my job. 607 00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:07,780 Whenever I see the power of Satan lined up against me... 608 00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:11,930 Whenever I see the eyes of schoolchildren turned upward so that the 609 00:35:11,930 --> 00:35:16,670 revealed and that truth is not revealed and that truth is hidden and perverted 610 00:35:16,670 --> 00:35:22,630 and denied, then I have only to turn to the nail -scarred hands of Calvary for 611 00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:28,970 my strength. And you, Doctor... Now we're going to lead off with a miniature 612 00:35:28,970 --> 00:35:33,190 seared ahi, then we go to the miniature lasagna, then the miniature panini, and 613 00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:35,650 then the miniature bellini. Now, is everyone aware of that? 614 00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:36,870 Yes, ma 'am. 615 00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:41,740 Have you seen Rosalie? 616 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,200 She's getting dressed. 617 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,740 Where? Upstairs in the bedroom. Why? 618 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,580 Well, I have to give her something. 619 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,220 Oh, no, Benny, that's not possible. You're not permitted to see the bride 620 00:35:51,220 --> 00:35:52,078 the wedding. 621 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,080 That's a lot of dough, right? 622 00:35:53,580 --> 00:35:56,160 Dominic, how many times are you going to tell me that you paid for the band? I 623 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,380 wasn't aware I told you already. Hello, Denise. Don't you look wonderful? 624 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,820 Thanks. Hello, Dominic. 625 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,200 Hello. I can't see Rosalie before the wedding? Of course not. It's bad luck. 626 00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:07,780 Would you give this to her? 627 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,480 What is it? 628 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:13,780 Oh, I don't know. I promised Tim I'd get it to her before the wedding, and I 629 00:36:13,780 --> 00:36:14,940 promised him I wouldn't look inside. 630 00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:16,940 I'll give it to her right now. 631 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,980 I wonder what it is. 632 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,560 It's in an envelope, so chances are it's a letter. 633 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,320 You think that's a letter? 634 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,560 What are you worried about, Benny? She's marrying you. 635 00:36:27,020 --> 00:36:30,460 They tell me I can't get a drink before the ceremony. What is this? They told me 636 00:36:30,460 --> 00:36:31,680 the same thing. It's the mother. 637 00:36:32,270 --> 00:36:34,230 Barney, you think I should have looked in that envelope? 638 00:36:34,450 --> 00:36:35,129 For what? 639 00:36:35,130 --> 00:36:36,130 I don't know. 640 00:36:36,430 --> 00:36:39,930 See what he said or... Benno, do yourself a favor. Don't start looking 641 00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:42,450 rocks. You've got a past. She's got a past. 642 00:36:42,730 --> 00:36:45,170 You start delving into it, you're only going to cause yourself a lot of 643 00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:48,230 unnecessary anguish. In other words, forget about it. Exactly. Meanwhile, 644 00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:49,189 you seen the band? 645 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:51,890 No. I hired a six -piece band. I haven't seen Musician One. 646 00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:54,470 Don't worry about what came before the wedding. 647 00:36:55,250 --> 00:36:57,090 Start worrying about what comes after. 648 00:37:08,919 --> 00:37:11,300 Don't tell me you're never going to talk to your old father again. 649 00:37:12,740 --> 00:37:15,120 I'm sorry if I stepped on your toes yesterday. 650 00:37:15,460 --> 00:37:16,560 You're not the least bit sorry. 651 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,800 You saw the opportunity to preach, and you preached. 652 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,980 Preaching's what I do, daughter. I was put on this earth so I would preach. 653 00:37:24,220 --> 00:37:27,300 And I was put on this earth to be a lawyer. And from what I can see, you're 654 00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:30,900 doing a fine job as a lawyer, as well as being a decent young Christian woman. 655 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,700 Why wouldn't you stop yesterday when I asked you to? Why did you embarrass me? 656 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,600 Because some things are more important than your embarrassment. 657 00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:38,820 This is where I work. 658 00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:43,250 You showed up unannounced and uninvited and proceeded to take over. I left 659 00:37:43,250 --> 00:37:45,430 Oklahoma, so you wouldn't be able to do that to me. 660 00:37:45,690 --> 00:37:46,830 Is that why you left? 661 00:37:48,190 --> 00:37:49,570 Among other reasons, yes. 662 00:37:51,250 --> 00:37:52,530 Can we talk about this? 663 00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:55,310 I'm due in court. 664 00:38:02,010 --> 00:38:03,710 Has the jury reached a verdict? 665 00:38:04,330 --> 00:38:09,190 We have, Your Honor. What say you? On the claim of wrongful termination, we 666 00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:10,190 for the defendant. 667 00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:12,670 The jury is dismissed with the thanks of the court. 668 00:38:14,590 --> 00:38:15,810 I'm sorry, Michael. 669 00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:18,970 We knew it was a long shot. 670 00:38:19,570 --> 00:38:20,570 We can appeal. 671 00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:24,190 I think I'd rather just teach someplace else, maybe in a private school. 672 00:38:24,490 --> 00:38:25,910 God's been bragging on you, Michael. 673 00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:28,490 I know you're not going to walk away now. 674 00:38:29,070 --> 00:38:32,570 We have to go to a wedding, Dad, and this is something that Michael needs to 675 00:38:32,570 --> 00:38:33,570 decide for himself. 676 00:38:34,430 --> 00:38:35,430 I'll call you. 677 00:38:35,710 --> 00:38:36,710 Thank you. 678 00:38:38,030 --> 00:38:39,050 Oh, why not? 679 00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:43,330 Please? No, honey, I just don't think it's a good idea that you open it now. 680 00:38:43,810 --> 00:38:46,410 But he asked me to. Well, he had no right to ask you to. 681 00:38:46,750 --> 00:38:49,450 Mom. All right, go ahead. Open it. 682 00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:53,730 What does it say? 683 00:38:58,350 --> 00:39:00,530 I love you then, and I love you now. 684 00:39:01,190 --> 00:39:04,250 Tim, this is all I needed. 685 00:39:04,890 --> 00:39:09,390 Fran, why don't we... Would you help me with this sleeve? I'm having trouble 686 00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:10,390 here. 687 00:39:11,110 --> 00:39:12,350 You okay? 688 00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:22,170 Yeah. 689 00:39:24,910 --> 00:39:27,610 Benjamin, do you take Rosalie... 690 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,820 To be your wife, to love and to cherish from this day forward, for better or for 691 00:39:32,820 --> 00:39:34,320 worse, until death do you part? 692 00:39:35,060 --> 00:39:36,060 I do. 693 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,240 And do you, Rosalie, take Benjamin to be your husband, to love and to cherish 694 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:44,520 from this day forward, for better or worse, until death do you part? 695 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,440 I do. 696 00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:48,500 Rings, please. 697 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,480 With this ring, I thee wed. 698 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,080 With this ring, I be wed. 699 00:39:59,340 --> 00:40:01,100 You're supposed to put it on my finger. 700 00:40:01,580 --> 00:40:05,360 With this ring, I be wed. 701 00:40:08,660 --> 00:40:13,120 With this ring, I be wed. 702 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,620 I now pronounce you husband and wife. 703 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,140 You may kiss the bride. 704 00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:33,850 Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. 705 00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:34,928 and Mrs. 706 00:40:34,930 --> 00:40:36,870 Benjamin Dover. What 707 00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:44,790 is 708 00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:45,790 it about weddings? 709 00:40:45,950 --> 00:40:48,450 It's their monumentality. Is that what it is? 710 00:40:48,810 --> 00:40:55,650 Two people of transversely seemingly impenetrable gulf found one another, 711 00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:57,710 in love, and changed their lives accordingly. 712 00:40:58,370 --> 00:41:00,130 It's amazing that it ever happens. 713 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,400 Yes, it is. 714 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,820 You know, the wildest I've ever been was at a wedding. 715 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,120 What do you mean by wild? 716 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,880 Let's just say I did things I don't ordinarily do. 717 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,440 What kind of things? 718 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:23,360 Well, I drank a little too much, got carried away, I took off with the best 719 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,360 man, lost several articles of clothing, you know, things like that. 720 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,638 Done that? 721 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,640 Uh -huh. 722 00:41:31,340 --> 00:41:32,340 Uh -huh. 723 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:35,960 Me too. 724 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,840 Say, you still seeing that dead? 725 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,160 Oh, yeah. 726 00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:41,420 Why didn't you bring her? 727 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,940 I think there were going to be a few too many warriors here for her. 728 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,840 Oh, hey, Jonathan. Tommy. 729 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,160 I heard you became a partner. 730 00:41:49,380 --> 00:41:50,380 Congratulations. 731 00:41:55,580 --> 00:41:57,220 Well, are congratulations in order? 732 00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,560 By all means. 733 00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:04,600 Well, hold on, Occupy. 734 00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:07,480 Hey, I... Are they happy together? 735 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,240 I... 736 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:19,180 Don't 737 00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:20,720 ever tell me the fire's out. 738 00:42:22,940 --> 00:42:28,760 Well, I was wondering what was in the envelope Tim sent you. 739 00:42:29,180 --> 00:42:30,300 It was a picture. 740 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,360 What kind of picture? The picture means him. 741 00:42:36,060 --> 00:42:38,020 There was no letter in there? 742 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,660 No, he just wrote something on the picture. 743 00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:45,840 Would you show it to me if I asked you to? 744 00:42:47,780 --> 00:42:48,780 Yes. 745 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,740 Are you asking me to? 746 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:56,720 No. 747 00:43:18,510 --> 00:43:20,530 S -T -U -L -W -I -C -Z. 748 00:43:21,050 --> 00:43:25,630 S -T -U -L -W -I -C -Z. 749 00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:27,790 That's nice. 750 00:43:28,350 --> 00:43:29,470 Did the band get here? 751 00:43:29,930 --> 00:43:32,350 I don't know, Dominic. I can't brain them anymore. 752 00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:35,470 Oh, Denise. 753 00:43:39,170 --> 00:43:42,410 Sometimes I look at you and I think of the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. 754 00:43:43,010 --> 00:43:44,010 Eli. 755 00:43:44,530 --> 00:43:45,530 I don't think it a lot. 756 00:43:46,890 --> 00:43:52,170 allow myself to think it a lot we've known each other for a long time we work 757 00:43:52,170 --> 00:43:55,630 together we're friends we've never been anything other than friends and every 758 00:43:55,630 --> 00:44:00,170 now and then the thought crosses your mind right it's okay it's 759 00:44:00,170 --> 00:44:07,010 an impulse though isn't it everyone has impulses some you act on some you 760 00:44:07,010 --> 00:44:12,410 don't i think i'll interrupt this dinner party by sitting on my food no i won't 761 00:44:12,410 --> 00:44:17,100 do that i think i'll Ask a complete stranger to loan me $50 ,000. 762 00:44:17,660 --> 00:44:18,760 No, I won't do that. 763 00:44:23,780 --> 00:44:30,680 Oh, my 764 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,680 God. 765 00:44:50,250 --> 00:44:51,250 I've been looking for you. 766 00:44:52,930 --> 00:44:53,930 What's wrong? 767 00:44:54,590 --> 00:44:55,590 Nothing. 768 00:44:56,170 --> 00:44:58,990 Well, you're out here all by yourself. Something is wrong. 769 00:45:00,710 --> 00:45:03,490 Of course something is wrong. Your father's been out here. 770 00:45:04,090 --> 00:45:06,030 Well, my father's been out here so long. 771 00:45:06,310 --> 00:45:09,910 So ever since he arrived, you've been reminded of all the reasons you left 772 00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:11,170 Oklahoma in the first place. 773 00:45:11,710 --> 00:45:14,790 The sense of yourself as an attorney has been undermined. 774 00:45:15,810 --> 00:45:18,670 The sense of yourself as a woman has been conflicted. 775 00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:21,360 You don't know the first thing about me. 776 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,160 I think I do. 777 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,280 And I'm telling you, you don't. 778 00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:30,820 I don't want to be psychoanalyzed, and I don't want to be preached to. 779 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,280 Believe it or not, I am not some empty vessel waiting to be filled. 780 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,580 I know what I want. 781 00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:40,300 I know what I need. 782 00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:44,820 And I am perfectly capable of deciding how I want to live my life. 783 00:45:54,420 --> 00:45:55,420 Now I'm go